Posts by Fred Franztone

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How soon is soon?

by Sour Grapes in

i guess if the jdubs have no clue how long a generation is they also wouldn't know how long a time period the word "soon" refers too.. 60 years ago my mother would hammer into my brain how soon the great tribulation was.

soon jehovah would destroy the wicked.

then a few years later there was no need to go to college because the end was so soon.

Fred Franztone

How soon is now?

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If the Watchtower corporation went bust

by Fred Franztone in

jw
friends

what do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.

Fred Franztone

The question is not about family and friends, it's about the JWs. Furthermore, it's yet another unhealthy, escape from reality, unnecessary, never will happen what if that brings nothing positive to anyone.
Spend your time fostering a good relationship with your JW love ones instead of wasting time fantasizing.

I don't think you belong on this message board

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If the Watchtower corporation went bust

by Fred Franztone in

jw
friends

what do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.

Fred Franztone

Those of us with family & friends in the religion care

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Sincere question to those who no longer believe in God

by nowwhat? in

i get it, not a fan of yahweh the desert god.

but what about jesus?

anything wrong with his teachings like the sermon on the mount and the example he set.

Fred Franztone

There's no evidence that the sermon on the mount ever took place, let alone that it was given by some kind of god. There is however plenty of evidence that people have overactive imaginations

God doesn't exist, sorry, science has demonstrated this by gradually removing him from every gap he once filled. There are so few gaps left at this point that the only semblance of a god remaining is little more than a prime mover at best

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If the Watchtower corporation went bust

by Fred Franztone in

jw
friends

what do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.

Fred Franztone

What do you think would happen to Jehovah's Witnesses as a religion and as a people?

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Clearly, undeniably, without doubt ... is there a term for introducing a thought in such a way.

by jwfacts in

watchtower article often introduce a point that has no merit with words such a "undeniably.".

for instance the watchtower 2014 august 15 page 10 says:.

"jehovah undeniably blesses the preaching work of christian women and supports them in times of trial.

Fred Franztone

I thought they were called 'weasel words'.

They are weasel words. However, weasel words can be the opposite as well. Words like probably and somewhat. They tend to be unnecessary adverbs

I'd call the use of evidently and clearly both weasel wording and poor writing

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Why did you leave?

by Fred Franztone in

we all have many reasons for leaving, most are doctrinal, some are emotional.

it's a religion which obsesses over factual proofs (counterfactual though they are) of its veracity rather than faith, so it's inevitable that most who leave will do so for intellectual reasons.

which doctrine above all others forced you to reconsider your position?

Fred Franztone

I never said anything about being disfellowshipped

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conversation with a JW about the sun

by neat blue dog in

jw: didn't we just hear somebody say that the sun's gonna blow up?.

me: well, they were saying that it will expand and eventually burn out.. jw: but it can't do that, it just keeps blowing up inside and getting more power.. me: well, they were talking about stars in general, how they have a life span.. jw: but god didn't make it that way, it's firmly established to time indefinite.

it's not like the sun is a regular star.

Fred Franztone

2. Our sun might not actually become a Red Giant either, it may just collapse down upon itself to become a white dwarf.

It will most certainly become a red giant, twice in fact, before the outer layers are blown away, leaving a white dwarf

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Facts Don't Win Fights: Here’s How to Cut Through Confirmation Bias

by Brokeback Watchtower in

finding common ground more likely to work.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyiozodhkbe.

Fred Franztone

I have no common ground with JWs